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  1. Hi there. Thanks for this informative article. I have two older ladies and two youngsters. We got them at the same time – April 26th. So they’re about 4 mo old. One is an Easter egger and one is a Wyandotte lace wing. they both started laying eggs about the same time. The Easter egger started about a week before the Wyandotte lace wing – on 7/26. She laid some very small, beautiful, light blue eggs. We were thrilled. she may have laid 2 -6 (my daughter and i can’t remember how many) and then just stopped. She’s laid no eggs since then.
    After reading your article, I went outside and looked at her Wattles and comb. She has no wattles and a small, light pink comb. Very small ears i guess. She definitely doesn’t do a submissive squat. She still gets the zoomies (runs around excitedly) a lot, like she did with her sister when she was little. She also still flys over the fence, which her sister, who is laying, no longer does.
    Any thoughts about what could be causing this? Is she not developed?

    1. Different breeds have different shaped and sized combs & wattles, so it’s hard to compare hers to her sister’s. Easter Eggers usually have a beard hiding their wattles and a small pea comb. If she has already laid some eggs, she is mature. The other indicators you mentioned are personality things. Not all birds do a submissive squat in front of the humans, some only do it in front of a rooster, or in front of the lead hen, and some just don’t ever do it. Having extra energy could also just be a personality thing, she might just be a flighty bird lol. Retaining the ability to fly has more to do with their body size than maturity. While it is true that before they are mature, most of them can fly a bit to clear a fence, it’s because they haven’t put on the body weight of a full grown hen. Wyandottes are heavy hens, so it’s not surprising her sister is having issues clearing the fence now that she is mature. Easter Eggers are actually “mutts”, they are mixed breeds that retain a blue egg laying gene. So it’s hard to say what her final weight will be, I have two of them, one is very heavy and the other is much smaller boned. I have some hens that are over 7 years old that are still able to escape their 4 foot fence by flying over (including that smaller Easter Egger). My guess is that your hen is still laying – but she is escaping her pen and finding her own nest. If you follow her in the morning, I bet she will lead you right to it. If having her escape is troublesome for you, I would suggest you look up some video tutorials on clipping their wings. It is harmless, like a haircut

  2. Fascinating article. I am a new chicken mum, we have 2 wyandottes, and rhode island red, and a brahma. I was just curious, they are nearing the 20 week mark now, the wyandottes and brahmas tend to lay later, but the rhodie is bottom of the pecking order. Is the rhode island red likely to lay first? Also, the wyandottes have relatively small combs and wattles, yet they are consistently bright red in the face. Is this a sign or does it mean anything?

    1. You should be seeing eggs any day! The Wyandottes and Brahma being very large breeds are typically later layers as it takes longer to get to full grown size. The RIR should be the first to start laying, but much like humans hitting puberty everyone is a little different so she could just be a late bloomer. Wyandottes have a rose comb, they stay small and flat, so they are just as they are suppose to look. But the fact that they are bright red means they are coming close to laying their first eggs!

      1. Thanks for your help – we got our first egg just over a week ago from the RIR!! On another note, she wasn’t too great his morning, and I was wondering if you could help? So far we have got 4 normal eggs and 2 soft-shelled. She is usually very vocal every morning,m however today I went to let them out and she did not rush out to the food like the others, instead she stayed standing in her nesting box (sometimes she likes to sleep in this nesting box and lay in the one next door). So she didn’t want to come out this morning and I thought that’s ok she’s just laying because she hasn’t in a few days.

        Yesterday around 2:00 she went and sat in her nesting box for a good 30 mins but did not lay, and this morning she sat in there for 45 mins while the others came out and ate. She has not eaten any of her layer feed, but I picked her up for a bit and fed her some cheese, which she like. When I took her back down she drank a bit and then kinda just went and stood in the corner by herself – I think she has been drinking a lot this morning.

        Usually when I go and pick her up she squats a little bit, but today she just stands there, and she hasn’t made a sound which is very unusual for her. Also, when she finally came out this morning she had urates down all her fluffy but feathers but her vent is not blocked. Her tail is not down as I have seen it before, but it is certainly not up and happy. Her comb is pretty red but she hasn’t been moving much – just standing in the corner

        1. It’s hard to say, those symptoms could be several things. I would support her immune system with some apple cider vinegar in the water. Also if you soak a little feed in water or mix it with a little plain yogurt, sometimes it makes it more enticing to eat if they aren’t feeling well. But you also might want to check to be sure she isn’t egg bound. With a gloved finger, feel inside her vent (if there is an egg stuck it will be within a couple inches of the vent opening, you don’t need to look too far). If she is egg bound, a couple things can help her pass the egg. You can feed her some crushed up Tums (the calcium helps), soak her legs/underside in a warm bath, and put her in small cage (like a dog crate) with nesting materials and the put a towel over the top of the cage to make it dark and cave like. I unfortunately had a girl like this once, when she reached laying age she started having the signs of being egg bound, but there was no egg. We tried for days to help her and nurse her, but we lost her. I think she may have had a reproductive system issue that only surfaced when she matured. I really hope that is not the case for your hen!

          1. Thanks, she is a lot better this morning and laid a soft-shelled egg late last night but we will definitely give the apple cider vinegar a go

  3. We got our first egg today! Based on your info, I think it was a RIR. it’s comb got so big and red we thought it was a rooster. LOL
    Can we expect an egg daily now?

    1. Yay!! That first egg is always so exciting! It can take a couple weeks while they get the hang of egg laying. In those first weeks, the eggs are usually smaller than normal, may have calcium deposits, may be laid outside the nest box, and may not be as regular. You can expect 4-6 eggs per week from your girls with a few exceptions. They don’t lay much during molting (your girls won’t molt their first year, but next fall they will and eggs will slow or stop). They also don’t lay as often during short winter days. A chicken needs 14 hours of daylight to produce an egg. So in the spring/summer you might get 5-6 eggs a week per bird, but in the winter it might only be 2-3 eggs per week. Enjoy them!

    2. Thanks, she is a lot better this morning and laid a soft-shelled egg late last night but we will definitely give the apple cider vinegar a go!

  4. Thank you so very much for the information. I was wondering about the submissive stance and our little winkin’s posturing. She is the first of five in our feathered family to go through the change. I was worried that she may be ill (we have many wild berries around our farm) and was going to load her up and take her to the Vet. but now I’m in a wait and see mode. Any way I ramble…thank you again. Sincerely, Pops Fitch
    Post script: I was raised on a small farm in Southern Calif. and our chickens were totally free range with roosters.

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